Home Made Bottom Heat for Seed Starting (or pet bed)

February 17th, 2009 by David LaFerney Leave a reply »
These tomatoe plants were grown under shop lights in only 4 weeks from planting the seeds!

I always had problems starting seeds in our plant room, but these tomato plants were grown under shop lights in only 4 weeks from planting the seeds!

These seedlings were planted only one week ago.  I used to wait weeks for germination that was spotty at best in my cool plant grow room.

These seedlings were planted only one week ago. I used to wait weeks for germination that was spotty at best in my cool plant grow room.

The answer was simple…
Recycling rope lights turn out to be a great way to make bottom heat for seed starting under lights.

Recycled rope lights turn out to be a great way to make bottom heat for seed starting under lights.

I built our “plant room” about 2 years ago – just a small well insulated room with a lot of windows and shop lights – and since then I’ve tried starting my own seeds with varying degrees of success.  The problem that I’ve had is that over night temperatures in the room routinely fall into the 50s which is fine for maintaining tender plants over the Winter, but makes seed germination spotty at best.  I knew that what I needed was bottom heat.

The thing is that retail bottom heat is expensive – I saw one “kit” at a local garden center that was big enough for 2 flats and was $79 – wow!  You can buy a lot of tomato plants for eighty bucks!  A low cost alternative had to be possible for a dedicated scrounger like myself.

Whatever I decided upon had to be:

  1. Safe – neither an electrical shock nor a fire hazard!
  2. Cheap
  3. Simple
  4. Big  enough to start all of our early Spring seeds.

Before proceeding – You the reader must agree that you will not hold the author or anyone associated with doorgarden.com responsible for your use of this information.  What you see being done in this article may not be safe (and probably isn’t), and could cause injury, death, destruction, mayhem, fire, dammage to your home, and prolong the economic downturn by preventing you from spending money and thereby stimulating the economy.  It might not even work.  In any event thou shalt not hold me responsible.  If you don’t agree with any of that then turn back now – don’t even look at the pictures.

After quite alot of thought I decided to use rope lights for the heat source – here’s what I did…

Rope lights going in over insulation board

Rope lights going in over insulation board

I already had a section of shelf in the plant room that was about 2 feet wide and 8 feet long that I wanted to use.  I put a 1/2 inch layer of styrofoam insulation board over the 1/2 inch OSB (chipboard) shelf and then loosely fastened the rope lights over that. This took 3 20′ lengths of rope light.  Note – after using this for a few days I would say that 2 strings of lights would be plenty for this size bench – I might rework mine to make that adjustment.

These rope lights are rated for exterior use and are double insulated.  They are safe for wet locations and direct contact with flammable materials like wood because they only get slightly warm.  Neither a shock nor fire hazard.  They were used at one time for outside lighting but hadn’t been used in a couple of years.

Because they are double insulated they don’t even need to be plugged into a GFIC outlet, and in fact it wouldn’t serve any purpose to do so, because they don’t have a ground post on the plug.

The rope lights are fastened down using screws and wire ties that have holes for this purpose.

The rope lights are fastened down using screws and wire ties that have holes for this purpose.

zip ties with the holes for screws like this are extremely handy - look for them in the electrical wiring section of the home improvement store.

zip ties with the holes for screws like this are extremely handy - look for them in the electrical wiring section of the home improvement store.

Then I put in strips of 1 inch insulation board to act as spacers.  Looks kind of festive doesn’t it?

Then I topped that all off with a layer of 1/2 inch drywall…

Drywall going on top (I didnt fasten it in place at all)

Drywall going on top (I didn't fasten it in place at all)

Drywall is relatively fire resistant, and has good thermal properties so that the heat will be nice and even without hot and cold spots, but this kind isn’t at all water proof so I topped it all off with a left over sheet of vinyl flooring…

I already had this nice big scrap of vinyl floor, otherwise I could have used a scrap of vinyl or rubber roofing, pool liner, shower curtain, or plain old plastic sheet.

I already had this nice big scrap of vinyl floor, otherwise I could have used a scrap of vinyl or rubber roofing, pool liner, shower curtain, or plain old plastic sheet.

Here’s an end view showing the layers (except the vinyl floor)…

Most of the heat from the rope lights is directed by the insulation to go up through the seed starter.

Most of the heat from the rope lights is directed by the insulation to go up through the seed starter.

From the top you have – 1/2″  Drywall, rope lights and spacers made of 1″ EPS board, 1/2″ styrofoam, and 1/2″ wooden osb (chip board) on the bottom.  It’s all sitting on top of recycled 55 gallon drums full of water which act as thermal mass to moderated the temperature in the room.  You could probably use wood for all of the parts and it would be safe and work just fine, but I didn’t feel 100% comfortable doing that since I’m using the rope lights for something that they weren’t really designed for.  I did not close up the holes in the end.

Heres the system with fresh planted flats.

Here's the system with fresh planted flats.

The surface of the finished bench is just slightly warm to the touch, and the soil in the flats feels just like it would on a sunny day in May – should be just about right.  When I have actual results I’ll post some pictures.

In the planning stages I thought that an 8′ by 2′ starting area would be really roomy, but after my lovely wife commandeered 5 of the 8 slots for her flower starts I realized that it isn’t too big at all.  Barely adequate in fact.

  • The bottom heat stays on 24 hours a day.
  • The lights are on a timer which turns them on for about 17 hours a day.
  • When using florescent lights for plant starting the lights need to be very close to the soil / tops of the plants to keep them from getting leggy – even then they are not nearly as bright as the sun.
  • The air temperature in the plant room stays above 55° F.
  • Once the plants are a couple inches tall (probably about a month) I intend to move them out to the garden, greenhouse, or cold frame depending on the plant.

Note that I planned and built this project with an eye toward utilizing materials that I already had on hand – didn’t buy a single thing.  You should taylor your own projects similarly to use the materials, tools, skills, and spaces that you have available to you.  Some alternative ideas that I considered:

  • Light bulbs mounted under a shelf that would be like a shallow open bottomed box. – This could probably work all right but would be more likely to be a shock or fire hazard.
  • Recycling a water bed heater. – This would probably work, but I didn’t have a water bed heater.
  • Cement board tile underlayment instead of drywall.  – Good idea, but would have required the outlay of cash. I already had drywall scraps.
  • Bedding the rope lights in sand so that it would be completely surrounded by fire proof thermal mass. – This would probably work great, and I almost did it like that.
  • Bedding the rope lights in drywall joint compound or mortar for the same reasons of fire safety and thermal mass. – This would also probably work great, but if the rope lights died it would make it a huge job to replace them.  Also it would be a big messy job to put it together.
  • Using a small space heater under an open bottomed shelf. – Everything would have to be made out of fire proof material for this to be safe.
  • A lower level of shop lights to bottom heat an upper level of seedlings. – This would be a likely shock hazzard because of excess water running down onto the lights, and you wouldn’t be able to use the bottom heat 24 hours a day.
  • If / when electric heat was not an option heat could be supplied by a layer of hot compost under a cold frame – This is called a hot bed.

After running this for a few days it has occured to me that something like this would make a really nice heated dog or cat bed.  Just a thought.

Update: I planted a variety of seeds one week ago tomorrow, and almost everything has already come up including some stevia seeds that are supposed to be hard / slow to germinate.  This works.

Update 2: A couple of things that I would do different and will probably change – My bottom heat covers an area about 8′ long by 2 feet wide which is great, but it would be getter if I could independantly turn it on and off in 4 foot sections, for when I’m not using all of the area. By the way, after about a month of use I’m astounded by how well this works!


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28 comments

  1. Dave says:

    Very interesting! I thought of using pipe heating cords to do something like this. Have you measured the surface temperature?

    • David LaFerney says:

      Just now the surface temp is in the mid to upper 90s with soil temps in the mid 80s. The air temp in the room right now is 80 because of solar gain – early this morning it was 60. I can actually see impatiens that have emerged since I finished this project yesterday after noon. I’ll check the temperatures again tonight after it cools off and post the results here. By the way, one advantage of the water bed heater option would be that they have a thermostat and temp probe already built in. I’ve seen them at junk stores for $5.

      • Duane Keys says:

        Any more temperature results? Looks like a great idea!

        • David LaFerney says:

          I just checked and the soil temp at 9:30 pm is 80-90 F – probably a bit higher than really needed – air temp is 70. But, I have stuff coming up here and there after only 3 days, and some seeds that I’m checking for germination rate that are sitting right on the warm bench are sprouting about as expected. I’ll probably spread out the rope light that I’m using to heat the rest of the bench too, but I’m pretty happy with the results already.

  2. gin maxwell says:

    I was glad to see this setup with rope lights. I just put a 6′ rope light in a bed of sand today and have it plugged in to test. It is attached to a wire mesh base and in a shallow tote. A second tote will fit on top the sand. My only worry was the warning on the box of lights that said not to cover or use at temps above 70?. That’s why I was looking for others who had used this type of bottom warmer.

    • David LaFerney says:

      All I can say is so far so good in my case. The lights might not last very long if they are over heated, and they might not be safe. Seriously you shouldn’t take any chances with fire safety. I’m sold on bottom heat though, I am getting the best results by far that I have ever achieved starting seeds under lights – a very fast, high germination rate with everything that I’ve planted so far.

      • gin maxwell says:

        Had an electrician friend take a look and he didn’t seem to think it would be any problem. He said it anything they’d just burn out. I haven’t started any seeds yet, but Sunday is my day for eggplant and peppers. Broccoli to follow soon. This will be a great adventure.

  3. Bill Buron says:

    The only problem is that the building needs to be heated and the ropelight is not on a thermostat so I think it may be difficult to control the heat on the bottom of the plants.

    Thanks again Bill

    • David LaFerney says:

      I don’t know Bill – with your cold frame inside of a greenhouse arrangement I suspect they would give plenty of heat even in an unheated greenhouse. Nonetheless, I’ve been kicking around ideas for making a thermostatically controlled plug bar that could be used for this, or an incubator, or whatever you plugged into it. My setup works great so far, but as the weather warms up a bit more control might be called for.

      • wilma travaille says:

        wondering if you have any pics of the water mattress with waterbed heater inside your greenhouse? Thanx

  4. gin maxwell says:

    This heat thing really works. I had broccoli, cabbage seed up in just one day. Amazing. Even the tricky to start Thai long green eggplant is beginning to emerge. This is a great experiment.

    • I know, I’ve had basil sit there for 1-2 weeks and then just get 50% germination before. With this set up nearly 100% of my 3 varieties of basil have come up in about 2 days. Stevia is supposed to be really hard to start from seed, but I’ve gotten about 50% germination of that in around 1 week. This is the key to indoor seed starting for me.

  5. gin maxwell says:

    A question for you. How long do you keep the bottom heat going? My plants are getting bigger, and now I am unsure of whether they need the heat any longer. Soon I will need the set up for starting my tomatoes, so I’d like to boot the earlier stuff out of the warm bed. My entire set up is inside the house so it is basically warm where they are.

    • David LaFerney says:

      Your guess is as good as mine. I’m having the same issue – After only four weeks from seed all of my tomatoes were about the size that you usually see for sale.
      .
      I’d say that if you need the space go ahead and move out whatever is already established to make room for the new. It might not be optimal, but what else are you going to do?
      .
      Here in middle TN it’s warm enough to move most anything out to the hoop house – which is starting to fill up too I might add.

      • gin maxwell says:

        I decided to leave the peppers and eggplants with cozy warm toes, but the cabbage, broccoli and Brussels sprouts got a new home by the window. It was warm enough today in eastern Nebraska to do some real digging in the garden, ah-h, what great fun.

      • CondoGarden says:

        As a suggestion, once you get 2-4 sets of true leaves (not counting the first two “seed” leaves) take them off of the heat. Let them get used to normal conditions. At least a few days to a week before planting, try to put them outdoors; in a coldframe would be great.

        The reason for this is, you don’t want your seedlings to go from warm, comfy-cozy indoors to the cold, harsh, barely-past-the-last-day-of-frost outside without some conditioning. This is what’s know as “hardening-off.”

  6. Danny Sleeper says:

    I am really excited about your sight,bottom heating is something I have never considered because, like you, money is an issue but this sounds like the way to go.Seeing as how it is almost july and a little late for this I will have time to get everything together. I am in eastern North Carolina and have a pretty good growing season and this will make a good early start

    • Planning well ahead is the way to tackle a project like this – if you don’t wait until the last minute you have a good chance of getting all of the materials for cheap or even free. Just keep your eyes open for what you will need – and grab them whenever you get the chance.
      .
      Good luck – Winter will roll around again before you know it.

  7. Erin says:

    David, Again, another fantastic idea (I may never leave your site this morning…I keep sending links to my husband at work). Question…how many hours a day were you keeping your above plant lights on? We did our first attempt at starting our crops from seeds last spring and it was dismal (the great aphid invasion wiped out anything that started, too). I think your bottom heat solution sounds fabulous.

    • 12-14 hours more or less of on time seems to work pretty well for most things. As a general rule you don’t want to do 24 hour light – it messes with the natural rhythms of some plants just like it does with people. You want to simulate Spring-Summer daylight.

  8. Mike Eaton says:

    this did not work for me

  9. Lee in Iowa says:

    I’ve used shop lights on timers (16 hrs / day) for years with great success in raising my own seedlings. Hang the lights on chains w/ s-hooks so you can move them up gradually. If you don’t want to do quite so much work & you only start a few flats of seedlings, setting them on top of your refrigerator works well. (They don’t need a lot of light yet, but toss a lightweight drycleaners bag over each flat to keep the moisture in.) Oh, and don’t buy “grow lights” for your fixtures; these days, if you read the packages carefully, you’ll find they’re just regular light bulbs tinted some clever color like green or blue!

  10. Evelyn says:

    You can get an adjustable thermostat at PetSmart that you can plug the whole setup into it is made so the sensor can be placed into the setup.

    You will find them in the reptile heater section.

  11. kathi dunphy says:

    Great idea! I built something similar with leftover tiles and a light bulb to freeze-proof my chicken waterer. Also if anyone is interested a combination greenhouse/chicken house. Various construction posts on my blog
    http://www.kathidunphywatercolors.blogspot.com

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